Three well-known podcasters—Tim Pool, Benny Johnson, and Dave Rubin—have vehemently denied any involvement in or knowledge of a scheme allegedly orchestrated by Russian state media to influence the 2024 U.S. presidential election. The scheme, according to a recent indictment by the Department of Justice, involved nearly $10 million in payments from Russian state media employees to a U.S.-based company, which, as confirmed by CNN, is Tenet Media. This company is known for hosting content from Pool, Johnson, and Rubin.
The indictment alleges that the Russian operatives behind the scheme aimed to recruit American influencers unwittingly, promoting narratives sympathetic to the Kremlin as part of a broader effort to sway public opinion in the run-up to the election.
In response to these allegations, each podcaster has issued statements asserting their innocence and describing themselves as victims of the alleged Russian scheme.
Tim Pool took to social media platform X (formerly Twitter) to address the charges. He expressed his shock and disappointment, stating, “Should these allegations prove true, both myself and the other personalities involved have been deceived and are victims of this purported scheme. I cannot speak for the actions or instructions of others at the company, but I can confirm my own complete ignorance of any such activities.”
Similarly, Benny Johnson expressed his concern and dismay in a statement. He explained that a year ago, his media company was approached by a startup media platform to provide content under a standard contract. Johnson’s legal team had negotiated what he described as a typical, arms-length deal. However, the contract was later terminated. “We are deeply disturbed by the accusations outlined in today’s indictment,” Johnson said. “The document clearly indicates that my colleagues and I were victims of this alleged scheme. My legal representatives will address any claims or suggestions to the contrary.”
Dave Rubin also made a public statement condemning the allegations. He firmly stated, “These accusations indicate that I, along with other commentators, were unwitting victims of this operation. I had absolutely no knowledge of any fraudulent activities related to this case. This is unequivocally clear.”
The podcasters’ responses reflect their frustration and confusion over the indictment. They each emphasize their lack of awareness about the alleged scheme and distance themselves from any wrongdoing. Their statements underscore a common defense in situations where individuals or entities are implicated in schemes they claim to have been misled about or not directly involved in.
As the investigation continues, the podcasters are expected to collaborate with their legal teams to clear their names and address any further implications arising from the indictment. The situation highlights the complexities of modern media operations and the potential for foreign interference in domestic political processes, raising questions about oversight and the responsibilities of content creators and platforms.
Overall, the denials from Pool, Johnson, and Rubin set the stage for an ongoing legal and public relations battle, as they seek to navigate the fallout from the indictment and reaffirm their commitment to transparency and integrity in their work.
DOJ outlines Russian disinformation campaigns designed to interfere with U.S. election
Attorney General Merrick Garland Exposes Sophisticated Russian Disinformation Campaigns
Amna Nawaz:
Turning to another major story of the day, foreign interference in U.S. elections.
Geoff Bennett:
At a press conference earlier today, U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland detailed what he described as sophisticated disinformation campaigns orchestrated by Russia and other adversaries. Garland highlighted the use of fake news outlets and real social media influencers to spread false information.
Garland issued a stern warning:
Merrick Garland, U.S. Attorney General:
“The Justice Department’s stance is unequivocal. We will not tolerate attempts by authoritarian regimes to exploit our democratic process. Our commitment is to actively counter and disrupt efforts by Russia, Iran, China, and any other foreign entities aiming to interfere in our elections and undermine our democracy.”
Amna Nawaz:
We are now joined by John Kirby, National Security Council spokesman, from the White House.
John Kirby, NSC Coordinator For Strategic Communications:
Thank you for having me.
Amna Nawaz:
These efforts seem to have evolved significantly from the 2016 DNC email leaks by Russian intelligence. How would you characterize the progression of Russian interference over the years?
John Kirby:
The methods have certainly advanced. Russian operations have become more sophisticated and better organized, with increased funding directly from the Kremlin. It is believed that President Putin is aware of these schemes, which have grown more cunning over time. Fortunately, we have also become more adept at detecting and countering these threats. As seen today, we are taking significant actions to address these challenges.
Amna Nawaz:
The Justice Department has charged two employees of RT, a Russian state-controlled media outlet, with funneling $10 million into a campaign to spread covert Russian messaging. What kind of messaging are we talking about?
John Kirby:
One example of this messaging involved blaming Ukraine and the U.S. for a terrorist attack in Moscow, which was actually carried out by ISIS. Another example included efforts to undermine Ukraine’s sovereignty and its fight for democracy, along with portraying the U.S. as a malign actor globally. These tactics are designed to erode public trust and support for democratic institutions.
Amna Nawaz:
The DOJ has also seized 32 internet domains used to spread Russian propaganda. How effective are these actions in stopping the spread of misinformation?
John Kirby:
We are actively working with tech companies to address these threats and ensure they take appropriate action according to their policies. While it’s challenging to keep up with the rapid pace at which such sites appear, our efforts include continuous monitoring and collaboration with tech firms. The key is to remain vigilant and responsive.
Amna Nawaz:
Regarding the 2024 presidential election, Attorney General Garland mentioned a targeted outcome. What specific goals might the Russian propaganda be aiming to achieve?
John Kirby:
The primary goal appears to be to undermine U.S. policies and sow discord within the country. While I cannot provide specific evidence about targeting any particular candidate, it is clear that the intention is to create division and disunity among Americans and to challenge U.S. leadership globally.
Amna Nawaz:
Is it helpful to know the direction of this disinformation, such as whether it leans towards a particular political stance?
John Kirby:
Yes, understanding the direction of disinformation is crucial. We aim to educate the public about these threats, as seen in today’s briefing. It’s important for citizens to critically evaluate the information they encounter and rely on credible sources.
Amna Nawaz:
Given that voting begins soon and Election Day is just over two months away, is it too late to counteract the effects of this misinformation?
John Kirby: